http://shhhh67.multiply.com/photos/photo/36/1?
For my muslim friends & family, juz in case u might not know how to identify the pig skin linings in shoes, here's a clear picture. hope that it makes u more cautious and aware with choosin ur shoes.
when i was in aussieland, i saw kangaroo skin also havin similar pore pattern but i guess, it's best to juz leave those killer heels or comfy sandals alone, if u see the trademark "3 dots".
wallahua'lam
ya its true..coz i eva wanna buy a Gucci handbag wen d chinese saleslady approached me and told me its pigskin. i was so shocked but really appreciate her concern, maybe she saw me wearing hijab, dats why she approached me. she told me the trademark for pigskin is "3dots"...so i happily made my way to Coach boutique instead. they use calf leather. but i guess nowadays, major malls do put a sign if d product is made of pigskin. one of it is Timberland.
ReplyDeleteWoah "scary" huh~! I think I got to bear in mind when I got shoe/bag hunting. Thanks for sharing cuz.
ReplyDeletekate spade uses a fair bit of pig skin too... cos i love their wallets and purses... thanks sophie.. the pic really helps cos i've heard abt the 3 dots but never did see it for real.
ReplyDeleteglitterluxe: oh so nice of the saleslady...yeah i've seen lotsa shops that put up signs for shoes with pig skin lining. it's nice to know that they take notice of such details for us.
ReplyDeletesitz: no worries, juz playin my part as a fellow muslim, spreadin some awareness n remindin each other :)
ejadam *JAWDROP...Look at my Kate Spade* Phewww lucky no 3 dots!
hahaha... not all not all hor... tat bag of urs and my wallet.. DEFINITELY not! phewwwww
ReplyDeletehehehe yeah!
ReplyDeleteadidas and puma sneakers also got a lot with pig lining and some hush puppies shoes too. some sales people are quite well-informed and do warn you beforehand, which is nice before u start fiddling with the shoes/bags. thanks for the pic supi...
ReplyDeleteyeah i remember u warned me at Marina Square's Puma boutique..heheh!
ReplyDeletequestion: do u think they might use it on motorbike gloves too? *yikes*
ReplyDeletewahh tis one i dunno...juz look out for those 3 dots, i guess?
ReplyDeletethose 3 dots looks very synthetic.. doesnt look like "au natural".. but better be was-was
ReplyDeletein regards to pig skin.. there are 2 school of thoughts. One said that its ok and the other better be careful than head towards issues. I say if you dah terbeli and tak tahu.. what can u do, but if u are aware of it, better do something! I was wearing a leather jacket for 2 years before realisiing it was pig- i gave it away to charity... beratus dolar habis ...sigh :P Yup, hush puppies is notorious with their pig linings, unfortunately.
ReplyDeleteBut wat is u wear socks for the shoes?! Hehehe
ReplyDeleteso, can i say that the 3 dots characteristic is a universal sign of pig skin lining? on any item? sorry....mcm banyak songeh plak...
ReplyDeleteiyuan: i presume its pretty safe as long as u dun touch it and not was-was? hee i'm not really sure, i'd juz avoid it totally, dun have to think so much over it.
ReplyDeleteazeanz: yeah it's the pore patterns on the pig skin, so can assume it's pretty universal.
there is also a form of PVU that has many2 dots. the salesperson shared that pig skin is more orderly and spread out. The PVU ade dots but its all scattered all over the place.
ReplyDeletePig skin doTs are in sets of 3.
N i can't stand it wen sales peePz deny that its pig skiN, wen it actuallY is!! there are suM mcm tuh..nak kene siKUuuu betoLLL!!! gRrrr..
buat bertenang kak fajy oii...hehehe
ReplyDeleteJust wondering why are some pigskin are 3 dots and then 2 dots and then 1 dot, at random... so those are fake pig skins ker? Real ones must be constant 3 dots ker? what if you wear stockings and then wear the shoes.. how does that qualifies? i wonder>
ReplyDeleteHmm well pigskin is considered a high quality product coz "it can absorb sweat", prevent smelly feet and all. N it is very expensive ahh. For cheaper shoes from china, i think its more of a fake pig skin... trying to look "class" n all, and it will really look very very similar... And i wont be surprised if china shoes mix pigskin with calf leather(remember sausage story in Malaysia). About the dots, i dun think its always there ahh (from wat I've observe), coz hush puppies shoes and adidas (women's shoes) dun have those dots or perhaps the dots are too small to be seen. I think when buying shoes jus be wary and ask, if the answer is no, buy it. If ade ape2 masalah, dosa kita org tu yg tanggung. Sekurang2nya kita tanya dan prihatin, lepas tu kita tawakal aje. Kalau susah2 pakai selipar jepun with toe socks untuk gi org kahwin ke ape ---> guarantee halal~ Hehehehe.
ReplyDeleteemm that's what i was told. they should appear like the one in the picture. i think theoretically u can still wear the shoes because u r not exactly touchin the pig skin, but personally...i'd rather not, me geli.
ReplyDeletemay i request to Miss Iqlima to ask the ustaz(ah) at Darul Arqam on their views on this, babe? i think they would give a better view in the religious aspect. ur help will be much appreciated!
peanutgal, i think so too, coz the picture in the link does not look authentic.... the patterns are such that they are symetrical naturally.i am somewhat not too convinced the picture is pig skin... coz it looks to synthetic...
ReplyDeletethe ones that i saw from other shoes when notices of pig skin lining were placed on the shoe shelf also have the same pattern...it may not be exactly symmetrical, but they form the triangular pattern...
ReplyDeleteMy Gucci bag tat I bought recently GUCCI HYSTERIA, luckily is not from pigskin. Phewww!!! kalau tidak - menangis sey. Save punya save, tup-tup pigskin. Tak ke hampa.. I call personally to paragon GUCCI store. Amin!! u gals can call too to confirmed. the salesgirl are more than willing to help.
ReplyDeleteAlhamdulillah...if not, u yg jadik hysteria...hehe! thanx for the suggestion, so far the one at Ngee Ann City's staff service is excellent too.
ReplyDeletean update!
ReplyDeletemy friend user:subhana has enquired the MUIS office regardin Pig Skin products issue. should u be interested to know, do have a look here:
http://subhanah.multiply.com/journal/item/265/Fine_China_bone_is_fine_but_how_abt_pig_skin
also, here's also a clarification regarding Fine China Bone products:
http://subhanah.multiply.com/journal/item/263/Fine_China_bones_plates_cups_etc_are_permissible_to_use_by_Muslims
may we always be guided in the right path...
hi there! i came across your site and read through your entry. i've made a similar entry in my blog and i would like to share. cos i discovered pigskin in a MONDO shoe.
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-liza
hi nefertira!
ReplyDeleteouh i love shoes at MONDO but so far the ones i bought(quite a long time ago) had no such 3 dots. alhamdulillah.
Thank u for sharin ur entry, dear liza,pretty sure it's beneficial for others out there...jazakillahu khair :)
found somethin to update abt pig skin products
ReplyDeleteIn the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
All praise and thanks are due to Allah, and peace and blessings be upon His Messenger.
Thanks for your question and your desire to know more about the teachings of Islam. May Allah increase your knowledge and grant you insight to understand Islamic rulings.
Muslims should strive hard to keep their bodies and clothes clean and pure; hence it is better for Muslims to wear leather that is originally permissible or derived from an animal that is lawful.
Responding to the question, the Islamic Religious Council of Singapore states the following:
Thank you for your query. We commend your effort to seek the truth in the religion.
The majority of scholars consider pig and all derivatives from it as heavy najis, which entails the necessary purification of seven washings, one of them with a mixture of sand and water, for surfaces that come into contact with pig and its organs. However, the condition is that the surface contact is wet or moist. If it is dry, then no purification is necessary.
Hence, wearing shoes or using things that are made from pig's organs are not advisable since it runs into possibility of being wet or moist and hence necessitates purification. Without such purification, Prayer (salah ) is not valid.
We hope that this reply answers your question. Please continue to seek religious knowledge at mosques or by reading authentic materials. A good book that you can rely on is The Reliance of the Traveller by Nuh Ha Mim Keller. This book can be found in many Muslim bookstores.
more reads from this source: http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1133694685810
Hi,
ReplyDeleteJust thought of sharing this with you guys so that you won't get panicky..=)
Some man-made leather may look like pig's skin too..:
Hasil dari pemeriksaan JAKIM didapati didalam industri pembuatan kasut, bag, tali pinggang dll, selain pengunaan kulit, bahan PVC, plastik dan kain adalah antara bahan-bahan yang sering digunakan. Diantara bahan-bahan ini sering terdapat kekeliruan diantara bahan PVC, plastik dan kulit babi kerana ketiga-tiga bahan ini apabila dipandang secara mata kasar akan kelihatan tiga bintik pada permukaannya. Sebagai maklumat bersama, triple dot yang terdapat pada PVC dan plastik adalah dihasilkan oleh mesin, keadaannya tersusun dengan baik dan titiknya terhasil secara menegak iaitu hasilan secara titikan jarum, menegak dan tepat manakala triple dot yang terdapat pada kulit babi, keadaanya tidak tersusun, berselerak, permukaan lubangnya menyendeng tidak menegak seperti yang terdapat pada PVC,keadaan menyendeng ini seolah-olah lubang jarum yang dicucuk secara menyenget. Diharapkan dengan penjelasan ini, para pengguna tidak terus panik hanya apabila terlihat triple dot pada mana-mana permukaan kasut, beg, wallet dsb, semak dahulu apakah bahan itu adalah kulit babi yang sebenar berdasarkan bentuk triple dot yang kelihatan.
am aware, thanks for sharing ur findings too :)
ReplyDeleteI had been reading about HUSH PUPPIES footwear made of pig skin. I had received information from supplier of HUSH PUPPIES and that is TRANSMARCO CONCEPTS that in Singapore, Malaysia and Indonesia their footwear specially made from lamb/calf leather only so as to cater to the Muslim community and consumer needs.
ReplyDeletehi there,icylovey...thank u for the info but i suppose it is always a good precaution to ask the salesperson abt the pig skin if in doubt.
ReplyDeleteRE: EnquiryThursday, 22 July, 2010 2:17 PM
ReplyDeleteFrom: "Diana Wong" Add sender to Contacts
To: "'Iqa Md'" Cc: "Leow Joo Ai"
Dear Iqa,
Thank you for your enquiry.
We would like to re-assure you that all Hush Puppies footwear sold in Malaysia, be it from retail stores or department stores or from our distributors are made of genuine cow leather or lamb skin only.
Also to share with you, Hush Puppies footwear is present in 140 countries in the world, including Pakistan, Indonesia, and the middle east. In these countries, Hush Puppies has also received numerous awards such as Best International Footwear Brand. In our neighboring country Indonesia, where we are also the official licensed distributor – we have also received the award for Best Selling International Footwear Brand in Indonesia.
Hush Puppies Footwear is the only international brand in the world which ensures that local religious and cultural aspects are taken care of. In the last 15 years in Malaysia, we have ensured that all our imported products are manufactured using only genuine cow and lamb skin only.
We hope that you can now enjoy your Hush Puppies product with peace of mind.
If we can of further assistance, feel free to drop us an email or give us a call.
Best Regards,
Diana
I also had email sent to HUSH PUPPIES UK department and it confirmed that pig skin as the material used over there but Alhamdulillah the company in charge of HUSH PUPPIES product in SINGAPORE, MALAYSIA and INDONESIA had given assurance. Even the SUNBABY kids shoes which were widely said to be using pig skin as 3dots had been found turned to be just the pattern created by the manufacturer after lab test was done. I had been reading and getting news of HUSH PUPPIES footwear made of pig skin but so far no example had been given or shown by those who had been spreading these news. It is better if we have proof as we are actually giving bad name to people's business. Muslim countries like PAKISTAN and THE MIDDLE EAST would not have imported these shoes if they contain pigskin.
ReplyDeleteFirestartlet ..i m sending all this because i m also like other muslim, trying not to buy shoe made of pigskin which is forbidden in islam. Here is another email i got... at least muslims out there have assurance but if theres still any doubt, u can call these company or just dont buy the product.
ReplyDeleteDear Iqa,
ReplyDeleteThank you for your email.
For your information, Hush Puppies footwear for Singapore , Indonesia and Malaysia do not use pig skin material for our products.
Should you need any enquiry, please do not hesitate to contact us.
Best regards,
Feliz Pang
Merchandising Manager
Transmarco Concepts Pte Ltd
12 Harper Road ,
#03-00 Sulisam Building .
Singapore 369677
DID : +65-6488 6795
Fax : +65-6736 3250
Email : feliz.pang@transmarco234.com
URL : http://www.hushpuppies.sg
alhamdulillah i appreciate & truly respect ur keen effort & enthusiasm in both making & sharing ur enquiry, sis iqa! keep it goin!
ReplyDeleteNo problem Sis .....We should show the world that no matter where we are, Muslim will always be one and we share the ups and downs together so that we will not be discriminated by other religion.
ReplyDeleteinsya Allah, i will always try to do my part...feel free to browse my site, i like to share some Islamic findings & learnings with both fellow muslims as well as non-muslims in the hope of trying to understand & capture the beautiful essence of the Deen. may u find something useful that helps to strengthen faith & love in ur heart :)
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